Subject: AIW APPN/HPR MIB SIG Meeting Minutes -- 11/2 and 11/3/95

From: "Mike Fairchild (919-543-7897)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 14:58:10 EST

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AIW APPN/HPR MIB SIG
Meeting Minutes --  11/2 and 11/3/95

Chair:  Rich Daugherty <[email-masked]>

New Chair and preparer of the minutes:

        Mike Fairchild <[email-masked]>

The AIW APPN/HPR MIG SIG working group met on November 1 and 2, 1995
at AIW in Raleigh, NC.  The following people participated in the
meeting:

    Bob Moore          IBM          [email-masked]
    Bob Clouston       Cisco        [email-masked]
    Robin Cheng        IBM          [email-masked]
    Mike Fairchild     IBM          [email-masked]
    Wayne Clark        Cisco        [email-masked]
    Laura Petri        IBM          [email-masked]
    Howard Blevins     3Com         [email-masked]
    Leo Temoshenko     IBM          [email-masked]
    Rachel Bodner      IBM          [email-masked]
    Matthew Finlayson  DCL          [email-masked]
    Nigel Williams     DCL          [email-masked]
    Jim Cobban         NorTel       [email-masked]
    Mark Regan         Cisco        [email-masked]

Since, contrary to plan, the HPR MIB had already achieved AD status
ahead of the APPN MIB.  It was not addressed at this meeting.
Instead, attention was focused on the APPN MIB.

APPN MIB content had progressed beyond normal AD level, and since the
MIB had not yet been formally granted AD approval, the discussion was
split between AD level and AP level issues so that AD issues could be
closed out and the group could move on.

AD LEVEL DISCUSSION RESULTS:

   > The MIB will apply to LEN node in addition to EN and NN nodes.

   > "Node" substring to be removed from LS and Port names.

   > The two CV objects were removed

   > IFType will be used to achieve closer alignment with the IETF
     Interface MIB.

   > Format rules for local addresses will not be defined by the MIB.

   Following the Wednesday session, SIG chair Rich Daugherty asked for
   and received AD level for the APPN MIB.

AP LEVEL DISCUSSION RESULTS:

   > All e-mail items on the current draft MIB were reviewed
     and resolved.

   > Sense data objects will have the Display String syntax,
     and the absence of sense data will be represented
     by a display string of eight ASCII zeros.

   > All objects flagged for removal will be removed.

   > MIB will be reorganized to move the READ/WRITE access
     objects to the front of the tables.

   > A page by page walk through of the MIB was done.

     Editing instructions were captured by Bob Moore and Bob
     Clouston and they will collaborate in the update of the
     MIB document.

During the AP level discussions Jim Cobban raised an issue regarding
the use of a MIB specific time stamp for APPN (and related MIBS).
This was characterized as inconsistent with the normal approach of
using sysUpTime for time stamp generation.  Jim proposed a compromise
which would allow the two alternatives to be implementation dependent.
The compromise was accepted at the meeting.  After the meeting it was
documented by Jim and subsequently refined by Bob Moore.

Since the issue pertains to the other SNA MIBs as well as APPN and
HPR, Bill Kwan, chair of the IETF SNA NAU MIB Working Group, raised
the issue to the broader Internet community including Keith
McCloghrie.  Further discussion is proceeding and consensus has not
yet been reached.

CONFORMANCE:

A first pass was made on MIB conformance.  The results of this session
will be documented by Bob Clouston in the next version of the MIB
document.

RELATIONSHIP to IETF SNA & NAU MIB SIGs

Both the IETF SNA NAU MIB Working Group, and the AIW APPN/HPR MIB
Special Interest Group convened in separate meetings at AIW 9.  Bill
Kwan took this opportunity to suggest that, since the MIBs being
developed by these two groups are so closely related, in the future
the efforts of the two groups could be merged.  This suggestion was
agreed to by both groups and, pending any unexpected legal
difficulties with the merger, we can expect the groups to work as one
in the future.

Schedule
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APPN MIB
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Dec 95 - AP level document to be distributed before Christmas.
Jan 96 - Interim meeting to review the document to be held in January.
Feb 96 - Electronic AP to be requested two weeks after the meeting.
Mar 96 - CP level draft to be distributed two weeks before AIW 10,
         around March 11.
       - CP level approval to be requested at AIW 10.

HPR MIB
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Mar 96 - AP level draft to be distributed two weeks before AIW 10.
       - AP level approval to be requested at AIW 10 (March 25-28).
Jul 96 - CP level draft to be distributed two weeks before AIW 11.
       - CP level approval to be requested at AIW 11 (July 15-18).

Many thanks to the editors Bob Moore and Bob Clouston and all who
participated in the successful meetings.